Comments on: STATE OF THE UNION, THOUGHTS ON, THE DAY AFTER http://www.kirbytalk.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-thoughts-on-the-day-after/ Standing for faith, family, flag and freedom. Mon, 01 Nov 2010 00:31:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Gary Plavidal http://www.kirbytalk.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-thoughts-on-the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-1239 Gary Plavidal Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:09:31 +0000 http://www.kirbytalk.com/?p=389#comment-1239 This was the first time that I can remember where the response was actually more effective the SOTUA. BO's speech was mostly zzzzzzzzzz seasoned with rank hypocrisy and and a heaping measure of falsehood--dare I say it: HE LIED--but there's nothing new about that. This was the first time that I can remember where the response was actually more effective the SOTUA.

BO’s speech was mostly zzzzzzzzzz seasoned with rank hypocrisy and and a heaping measure of falsehood–dare I say it: HE LIED–but there’s nothing new about that.

]]> By: Linda http://www.kirbytalk.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-thoughts-on-the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-1230 Linda Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:18:48 +0000 http://www.kirbytalk.com/?p=389#comment-1230 The overall lesson here is: NEVER, NEVER elect an attorney to the office of President. We have learned from both Clinton and Obama that a lawyer simply cannot be transparent or tell the truth---and they lack common sense, better known as "Wisdom". Obama, like any good attorney, has the ability to make you feel good after he has delivered a speech, but he also has the ability to lie and not even try to keep his promises. So (just as a test), lets see how fast he gets to drilling for oil on American soil and American coasts!! The "Drilling for Oil" promise should be a test by which he and the Democratic party should be measured every single day!! The overall lesson here is: NEVER, NEVER elect an attorney to the office of President.

We have learned from both Clinton and Obama that a lawyer simply cannot be transparent or tell the truth—and they lack common sense, better known as “Wisdom”.

Obama, like any good attorney, has the ability to make you feel good after he has delivered a speech, but he also has the ability to lie and not even try to keep his promises. So (just as a test), lets see how fast he gets to drilling for oil on American soil and American coasts!! The “Drilling for Oil” promise should be a test by which he and the Democratic party should be measured every single day!!

]]> By: Ken Mortland http://www.kirbytalk.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-thoughts-on-the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-1227 Ken Mortland Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:15:48 +0000 http://www.kirbytalk.com/?p=389#comment-1227 OK, as I understand it, Citizens United v. FEC was a 5-4 decision. That would mean that there was nearly as much dissent as support. Not knowing the actual roll call vote, I would, however, speculate that it followed political lines, with liberals in opposition and conservatives in support. Therefore, it qualifies as a political decision, regardless of the arguments used to justify each justice's choice. I'm not currently distressed by the door that the decision has opened. But, it's clear liberals are distressed. They seem to take no comfort in the fact that the ruling seems to open the same door for unions, as it does for corporations. I'm not qualified to judge whether foreign corporations can make this new ruling work in their behalf. If it does, that would be unfortunate. But, alterations in the incorporation laws of the US should help to address that issue. I don't think it appropriate for corporations with US subsidiaries, but are from right wing or left wing nationalist governments, who often control their corporate worlds, being able to influence our elections, any more than I think it was appropriate for the US to influence elections in Nicaragua to end Sandinista rule. Such decisions are the prerogative of the citizens within the country. I remain somewhat surprised at the objection to the unusual nature of this comment in the SOTU. After all, this president did promise to provide "change". I'm thinking we'd better be expecting more of it, too. OK, as I understand it, Citizens United v. FEC was a 5-4 decision. That would mean that there was nearly as much dissent as support. Not knowing the actual roll call vote, I would, however, speculate that it followed political lines, with liberals in opposition and conservatives in support. Therefore, it qualifies as a political decision, regardless of the arguments used to justify each justice’s choice.

I’m not currently distressed by the door that the decision has opened. But, it’s clear liberals are distressed. They seem to take no comfort in the fact that the ruling seems to open the same door for unions, as it does for corporations.

I’m not qualified to judge whether foreign corporations can make this new ruling work in their behalf. If it does, that would be unfortunate. But, alterations in the incorporation laws of the US should help to address that issue.

I don’t think it appropriate for corporations with US subsidiaries, but are from right wing or left wing nationalist governments, who often control their corporate worlds, being able to influence our elections, any more than I think it was appropriate for the US to influence elections in Nicaragua to end Sandinista rule. Such decisions are the prerogative of the citizens within the country.

I remain somewhat surprised at the objection to the unusual nature of this comment in the SOTU. After all, this president did promise to provide “change”. I’m thinking we’d better be expecting more of it, too.

]]> By: Jerry Cochrun http://www.kirbytalk.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-thoughts-on-the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-1225 Jerry Cochrun Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:00:59 +0000 http://www.kirbytalk.com/?p=389#comment-1225 Great job Kirby! I was screaming at the television the entire speach, this President is not an honest man! I was most disturbed by his scolding of the Supreme Court, his dissing SHOULD HAVE showed the American people just how little respect he has for the separation of powers, the Supreme Court, and the Constitution! As Juan Williams said on Fox News, this is 'very dangerous to our democracy'. Jay Gales comment is exactly correct, Republicans better get some fire in their bellies, we better stop taking the high road and being so nice and P.C., we better start playing hardball! The whole Supreme Court scolding should be an outrage in the media! Thaks again Kirby! Great job Kirby!
I was screaming at the television the entire speach, this President is not an honest man!
I was most disturbed by his scolding of the Supreme Court, his dissing SHOULD HAVE showed the American people just how little respect he has for the separation of powers, the Supreme Court, and the Constitution!
As Juan Williams said on Fox News, this is ‘very dangerous to our democracy’.
Jay Gales comment is exactly correct, Republicans better get some fire in their bellies, we better stop taking the high road and being so nice and P.C., we better start playing hardball!
The whole Supreme Court scolding should be an outrage in the media!
Thaks again Kirby!

]]> By: Patty http://www.kirbytalk.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-thoughts-on-the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-1224 Patty Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:57:11 +0000 http://www.kirbytalk.com/?p=389#comment-1224 Very well said ! Very well said !

]]> By: Kirby Wilbur http://www.kirbytalk.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-thoughts-on-the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-1221 Kirby Wilbur Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:45:38 +0000 http://www.kirbytalk.com/?p=389#comment-1221 You are wrong. Check out the NYT analysis and the article in the Harvard Law Record and tha analysis by Bradley Smith and...BTW, does it not bother you that the government claimed the power to ban a book under the law? Probably not, if it's the right kind of book, right? And, remember, the public disclosure requirements are still there. And, a foreign-owned but US incorporated and headquartered subsidiary, using US funds, controlled solely by US citizens can legally operate a PAC under current law, so this decision does not 'allow' foreign corporations to get involved in US elections. Besides, I wqould think you would support the kind of people Hugo Chavez would support. You are wrong. Check out the NYT analysis and the article in the Harvard Law Record and tha analysis by Bradley Smith and…BTW, does it not bother you that the government claimed the power to ban a book under the law? Probably not, if it’s the right kind of book, right? And, remember, the public disclosure requirements are still there. And, a foreign-owned but US incorporated and headquartered subsidiary, using US funds, controlled solely by US citizens can legally operate a PAC under current law, so this decision does not ‘allow’ foreign corporations to get involved in US elections. Besides, I wqould think you would support the kind of people Hugo Chavez would support.

]]> By: jay gale http://www.kirbytalk.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-thoughts-on-the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-1220 jay gale Fri, 29 Jan 2010 18:38:05 +0000 http://www.kirbytalk.com/?p=389#comment-1220 Hi Kirby, I thought the response was pretty tepid, the Repubs better get some fire in their bellies or there won't be a repeat of 1994, and Scott Brown will be an isolated victory Hi Kirby,

I thought the response was pretty tepid, the Repubs better get some fire in their bellies or there won’t be a repeat of 1994, and Scott Brown will be an isolated victory

]]> By: Bob Eberle http://www.kirbytalk.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-thoughts-on-the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-1218 Bob Eberle Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:49:10 +0000 http://www.kirbytalk.com/?p=389#comment-1218 Claire and I watched Bob McDonald, VA Governor, in his "response". He did a great job. He didn't mealymouth trying to be cooperative. He went right at them, and the problem the Progressive Democrats are generating. McDonald was really good. Some quetion in my mind regarding the Roanoke Conference sponsors. Be watching for your comments. Claire and I watched Bob McDonald, VA Governor, in his “response”. He did a great job. He didn’t mealymouth trying to be cooperative. He went right at them, and the problem the Progressive Democrats are generating. McDonald was really good.

Some quetion in my mind regarding the Roanoke Conference sponsors. Be watching for your comments.

]]> By: Meishelle Haverkamp http://www.kirbytalk.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-thoughts-on-the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-1216 Meishelle Haverkamp Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:41:03 +0000 http://www.kirbytalk.com/?p=389#comment-1216 Governor McDonnell hit it out of the ballpark! He gave a smaller government, controlled spending, more freedom message that was well thought out, brief, and easy to follow. It was the exact opposite of President Obama's rambling, pro-government, blame and intimidation address. See you at the conference! Governor McDonnell hit it out of the ballpark! He gave a smaller government, controlled spending, more freedom message that was well thought out, brief, and easy to follow. It was the exact opposite of President Obama’s rambling, pro-government, blame and intimidation address.

See you at the conference!

]]> By: Sue http://www.kirbytalk.com/2010/01/state-of-the-union-thoughts-on-the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-1213 Sue Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:39:18 +0000 http://www.kirbytalk.com/?p=389#comment-1213 A standing ovation for you Kirby! Well said! My favorite part of Gov. McDonnell was his sharing that his twin sons gave him 10 minutes and then they were going to watch Sports Center. The "crowd" may have seemed a little contrived to some but overall thought he did very well. A standing ovation for you Kirby! Well said! My favorite part of Gov. McDonnell was his sharing that his twin sons gave him 10 minutes and then they were going to watch Sports Center. The “crowd” may have seemed a little contrived to some but overall thought he did very well.

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